Should You Be Lazy? The Big Aha Moment to Learning with Michael Bungay Stanier

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Michael Bungay Stanier explains how you can change the way you lead others forever.

Michael Bungay Stanier was banned from his high school graduation for “the balloon incident”, was sued by one of his Law School lecturers for defamation, and has held a number of jobs where he had little or no impact. Through his experiences, he founded Box of Crayons, a company that helps organizations do more great work. On today’s show, he discusses his latest book with Roger, The Coaching Habit and how you can say less, ask more, and change the way you lead others.


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Key Takeaways:

[1:45] What was Michael’s defining moment?
[6:45] What is Michael up to these days?
[8:20] Michael talks about his latest book, The Coaching Habit.
[13:30] Slow down on giving advice, but stay curious for longer.
[17:00] If Michael could pick one type of person to read his book, it would be the busy manager.
[20:30] Did you know that boys are much more emotionally expressive than girls are in early childhood?
[22:00] There are seven essential questions you need to ask yourself. Michael explains further.
[25:40] Believe it or not, people do not learn when you give them really great advice.
[25:55] People really learn when they have a moment to reflect on what just happened.
[28:30] The Coaching Habit has been the #1 coaching book on Amazon since it launched 9 weeks ago.
[29:40] What legacy would Michael like to leave behind?
[32:00] What kind of legacy would Sam like to leave behind?

Mentioned in This Episode:
The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier

Music Credit:
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“Great work is the work that has more meaning, so it speaks to your values and it’s also the work that has more impact.”

“We have stereotypes on how we should be and how we should feel that make it a bit confusing as to how to show up.”

“In early childhood, boys are actually much more emotionally expressive than girls are.”


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